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[00:03:27] The one thing I can say to you was that they had London weather for that week. So there

[00:03:35] was so much overcast and I could rain and my mom was taking pictures of London and there

[00:03:40] were lots of sunshine. I was like, what just happened? Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm the

[00:03:44] guy. Spring with you. You won't be only one Meena taking some time off to go abroad because

[00:03:51] the Italian national team went off to the United States of America for two friendlies against

[00:03:59] Venezuela and Ecuador. I was a bit of an odd one. I mean, I think the March International

[00:04:04] break is always a bit weird isn't it? Because everyone's focused on the season run and everyone's

[00:04:09] got there. They're other focused but obviously in an autonomous year with the Euros coming

[00:04:13] up, you need to try and have some competitive games. I want to say to everyone who's looking

[00:04:18] at these teams when it's where they're going and going, where are these competitive enough?

[00:04:21] They are both ahead of Brazil in World Cup qualifying right now. Just putting that out there

[00:04:26] by the way. It's not saying they're perfect teams but they're not perhaps neither a

[00:04:32] Brazil who would be coming and playing some other top.

[00:04:34] You didn't have a coach who wanted a carloan. I'm sure you've got one now. So I don't

[00:04:37] know if this is like the bar that we should be looking for.

[00:04:40] Maybe Brazil is just a bad bar. But two games and two wins against Venezuela and Ecuador,

[00:04:47] two won against Venezuela, two no like against Ecuador. I don't know if we need to do like

[00:04:52] a detailed blow by the analysis of these games. I always say to everyone, like I am the

[00:04:57] first person to say don't take friendly to seriously no matter who they're against.

[00:05:01] I think international friendly are a little bit more serious in club friendly but still,

[00:05:06] I think what we're looking at is what are the things we maybe learned about what

[00:05:10] Luciana Strati is thinking about the team he's got in mind. I'm just happy that we had

[00:05:15] a week off rather than I was really worried about this week because I always think of

[00:05:18] this week as in my only time to travel and then I thought what if it's about like us

[00:05:22] figuring out if Italy's going to go to the Uros and I just left land that we weren't

[00:05:27] in one of those situations.

[00:05:30] Chinoa, I was mean I was watching the playoff final, the end fit between Wales and Poland.

[00:05:35] I didn't watch the whole thing I'll admit and from the sounds of what I was told

[00:05:39] people who do watch the whole thing, I think I dodged it by not watching the full 120 minutes

[00:05:42] but I was watching the end and the shootout and I was just hard going out to the Wales fans.

[00:05:47] Obviously you would have gone out to the Poland fans if they'd been one knocked out but just

[00:05:51] that experience of not knowing if your whole summer is going to be different for a penalty

[00:05:55] shootout was just horribly familiar as it wasn't always penalty shootouts frickly that we found

[00:06:02] ways to not qualify by but that feeling of being knocked out in a game from the party that

[00:06:07] everyone else is going to in the summer like the whole thing that everyone else is going to get to

[00:06:11] go and do it. It really feels like I should know, it feels like being back at school and not

[00:06:15] getting invited to the party to me.

[00:06:16] Yeah and when Speletti was saying we have to go to USA I'm like don't even think about it.

[00:06:21] It's just like I'm not going through this again okay I'm not going through it.

[00:06:25] There was no way we're missing out on another wall cup which has happened.

[00:06:28] Yeah, it can't.

[00:06:30] So you think and I think that's it what we don't over read into his frenes but I think some

[00:06:34] encouraging things that we can take from them.

[00:06:36] I mean I thought one of the interesting things that Speletti talked about because they played

[00:06:42] a back three both games in this little tour and Speletti because a lot of people actually

[00:06:49] when Speletti took the job we're saying always going to make it play like Napoli and he's

[00:06:52] going to this is anyway he's going to want to play and I think he's showing his flexibility

[00:06:57] but I think he's also showing what I always think is a fundamentally important pillar of being

[00:07:02] a national team manager which is recognizing you can't do that much in the small amount of time

[00:07:07] you have as a national team manager and so he said quite openly the best team in the country

[00:07:11] is inter play with the back three so I'm trying to take some of that and do it with my national team.

[00:07:17] Yeah also it's it's a three-man back line is often used and set it out so it's one it's

[00:07:21] kind of shape or a type of thing that everyone plays in set yeah and everyone's comfortable playing

[00:07:26] with I mean you ventures have it you know into have it like all a lot of teams understand how to

[00:07:30] play in black three and I think that he saw it was the right way to go also I also loved the fact

[00:07:34] that he used this opportunity to actually test things there was a lot being said about Southgate

[00:07:40] in England in the sense but he didn't really attest out a lot of Southgate didn't try out

[00:07:44] different players for different roles to see who he was going to take with him for example playing

[00:07:49] stones twice when you needed to see what other centrebacks that you would have in England this

[00:07:53] isn't a show about England but I'm saying is and that was important that we got to test out

[00:07:56] people like you know how what about Bon Joven or how is this going to cope if we play you know

[00:08:02] Bono Ventura or is it Lockertelli is better with Georgina next to him or should and I like the

[00:08:07] fact that we tested out Cambiazo who can we take out on this having these experiments give us

[00:08:12] a lot more understanding and playing often with a three-man back line and also knowing that we

[00:08:16] also have the four three three under our belt is something that I think will really help us going

[00:08:20] forward this is one of the things that I love about good coaches you know like in Sagi it like

[00:08:24] about Allegri obviously not more any more about Allegri but one of the great things is that they never

[00:08:29] changed too much but just introduced new ideas to make the team tactically flexible and that's

[00:08:34] going to be important going forward when we do face teams how good we are playing these different

[00:08:39] formations remains to be seen because Ecuador and Venezuela aren't exactly the kind of teams

[00:08:43] that we're going to be facing so I am a bit scared because even in these games that everyone's

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[00:10:34] 18 plus. Well I thought the performance against Ecuador was seemed much more

[00:10:40] Italy had much more control in that game and I think that speaks slightly to the starting 11 you

[00:10:45] look at the centric midfield in that game against Ecuador you're starting Georgina

[00:10:49] Barrella whereas against Venezuela you're starting one of Endura and Locatelli. I don't want to

[00:10:54] dismiss those players but I do think there is a clear sort of starting line I think in that

[00:10:59] Ecuador game that has a lot more control. Barrella was really into against Ecuador but I do think

[00:11:05] what you just touched on me near about the three is important as well in terms of offering

[00:11:09] different options because yes you could reasonably look at Italy's backline and you could say

[00:11:15] that the starting back three should be Barastoni, Acherto, B and Dagnia because all of those three

[00:11:19] players play together for their club team they're all Italian. Acherto be many to have a talk that

[00:11:23] will get onto him in a second but just on talent you can make that case out so it should be

[00:11:27] but you also can make a case that we have some really talented players who we could swap into

[00:11:32] that defence who also play in the back three. Scalvin and we saw in the game against Venezuela

[00:11:37] Mancini in the gaming in Ecuador, Dilar Enzo who's played sometimes in the back three for Napoli

[00:11:43] even though it's not his natural home there are other options that we saw tried out in these games

[00:11:47] and I think that's exactly as you say what we want to see in these games. Yeah do you not think

[00:11:52] also against Venezuela we sort of saw a more eventous dominated team with the case of

[00:11:59] Campiasson and Lockertelli and maybe that's why they were so poor whereas when you look at

[00:12:04] the the one against Ecuador it was the inter sort of domination of Darnamian, Basteoni, Di Marco

[00:12:10] but I still include Belanova in there. I mean he's no longer Inter but he is like that play it right

[00:12:17] and you just feel like it's very different when you do have Inter players dominating and it's

[00:12:21] listen you should always go with whatever team right now is doing the best in Sedia and trying to

[00:12:25] take as much of that chemistry with you to the national team. Yeah I think that's just yeah it's not

[00:12:30] just Italy it's just any national team like it's it's hard you haven't got much time you've got

[00:12:35] a small time to work with bring the players you know get each other and bounce off each other do well

[00:12:40] but then what other players starting into as well who I thought came away with lots of credit

[00:12:44] percordini obviously had a good game against Ecuador he's been really good for him ever since he

[00:12:48] had did Aussie with him. The first game against Venezuelan both goals scored by Matteo Rotechi who

[00:12:55] has had a really I don't know he's had an interesting first season at Genoa he hasn't exactly

[00:13:02] set the world on fire I think he scored six goals but I do think you we've talked about this

[00:13:06] loads of players before you have to make some allowances for player coming from a different continent

[00:13:11] completely different playing context and adjusting to a new league. He's he's record for Italy

[00:13:18] since the start of 2023 he scored four goals which is more than anyone else than I'd say in

[00:13:23] national team. He's got a goal every 87 minutes he's been on the pitch frequently.

[00:13:29] I greatly enjoyed that there's already a Twitter account which is counting down how close he

[00:13:35] is to being Italy's greatest all time for all Scora. Hey so it's already gone on the one night

[00:13:43] it went. Teorotegi is 33 goals away from being Italy's greatest goal scorer. Matteo Rotechi is 32

[00:13:48] goals away from now he's 31 games away from being Italy's goal scorer and so people are having fun

[00:13:55] with it and I think we should not play excessive expectations on him. I think I'm still for me the

[00:14:01] jury is on him as a player I haven't seen enough to make a firm judgment. I think my impression of

[00:14:06] him is still very much that sort of player who you're not going to get a lot of game involvement

[00:14:13] from him I don't see him doing like lots of different things even though I will say that Spaletti

[00:14:17] spoke afterwards and said he thought you had helped the team hold the high line. Spaletti specifically

[00:14:22] praised him for that saying he thought you helped the team come out and hold the high line on the

[00:14:26] pitch but he has been at least readily ruthlessly effective inside the Pounty Box and do you know

[00:14:34] it's too soon to know if that will sustain we'll get to the ears and we'll have a whole different

[00:14:37] judgment on him. All I will say is wouldn't it be nice? After all the years of it of Imabula who

[00:14:44] I've made the case for him lots of times and what a player he's at club level I know Patrick

[00:14:48] have he listens will want to attack me for being critical of him because I have a lot more time

[00:14:53] for Imabula than I think some people do but he has been frustrating on the national team so if we

[00:14:59] had the opposite if we had a striker who doesn't do a lot except for putting the ball in the net

[00:15:04] it would be lovely. Yeah I think it also has a lot to do with the way that you play football right like as

[00:15:09] then if you are a team that requires your number nine to also be in number 10 as well or to help create

[00:15:18] or for example La Taramatine is doing right now for it and by all means you know like this is

[00:15:22] that's the kind of player that I love to watch you know Kerry and Benzima is my honie-grale

[00:15:26] but right now it's really great a lot that's not what they need they don't necessarily need

[00:15:30] another midfielder to help them they just need a guy who can just convert the opportunities

[00:15:34] that they do create and I do think that when it comes to our midfield that came a while where I

[00:15:39] don't remember it's having a bunch of great midfielders. And I say a while but I'm not sure when

[00:15:47] to be honest I think around 2010 or I'm trying to think is I don't remember us noting like a great

[00:15:54] or even if I though is that that was a lot of machinery it wasn't there where it was um

[00:16:00] we like to do it. I'll see were very much at the end of their career and you had Verati kind of on

[00:16:04] his own as the guy who was supposed to be the transition player and and wasn't really um wasn't

[00:16:10] really doing it and you had maybe like the likes of Tanya who have become better sense but weren't

[00:16:15] ready for it yet um there was a gap. Yeah there was I mean even if you look at like sort of Dino

[00:16:20] Badge and stuff they were good midfielders but never like I feel like right now that's probably our

[00:16:24] area of strength. Like we have good midfielders the problem is that we don't have the strong

[00:16:29] defense that we use to I don't think we have a bad defense but it's certainly not as good as what

[00:16:33] we've previously seen throughout Italy's career like as in defense has always been the area

[00:16:38] that we really shine in and now I have question marks over which defenders I would take and I'm

[00:16:42] still not sure about any of them you know and I think forwards we've always had a great number 10

[00:16:47] we've always had these great players who are either great and you know treco artistes or sort of

[00:16:52] you know like the great Robbie Badgeau but I otherwise um yeah we don't have strikers and we don't

[00:16:57] have that but I'm sort of happy with our attacking midfielders I agree with you I'm really I'm

[00:17:02] really excited pala pala greenie I do feel sorry for him that he didn't end up going to the

[00:17:06] eras last time around he's one of my favorite players I've always felt like he was too heavily

[00:17:10] criticized and I'm so glad that he's starting to shine under Dero's seat despite all the abuse

[00:17:14] that he seems to get from his own stadium but I'm glad that he's getting to do what what he is

[00:17:20] can do um when placed in the right in the right role I still have question marks over Kesa um

[00:17:28] I just I don't know what I feel about him to be very honest with you but I think in midfield we're fine

[00:17:33] if Lockertelli could just be a little bit better on the ball um but uh so the reason for you

[00:17:38] is it Lockertelli? Yes because at the moment it's a 3 4 2 1 of course that still can change but

[00:17:43] that's a 3 4 2 1 was what we saw in these two games which really only gives you two

[00:17:47] real central midfielders and one of them is Barella so who do you put with Barella? I think it's

[00:17:52] your genius to everybody's say I mean it's absolutely fear sick and disguised maybe my arsenal bias

[00:17:58] is coming into this one for Speletti it depends right because when she needs like some more dynamic

[00:18:03] play um he's a lot more I think with Speletti he just for the game to be better you need better

[00:18:09] on the ball players and Lockertelli is just not that at the moment um so I would I would

[00:18:14] might try to have George Genouk as it allows because Barella can offer so much like he's just an

[00:18:19] old star perfect midfielder and having someone alongside him who can just dictate and not have

[00:18:24] to be concerned with all the other things um makes it better Lockertelli is just not good enough

[00:18:29] uh at the moment maybe he will be that but he's just not right now so I would I would always have

[00:18:34] those two in midfield right now from what I've seen so far it would be those two for sure

[00:18:39] and then you have the two in front of them which I think is also a really interesting conversation

[00:18:43] because again you can look at the Ecuador game it was Tellec Lini and San Llolo um and you can

[00:18:48] look at the Venice well a game and you can go it's Kierze and Fraterzi Fraterzi has had a weird season

[00:18:53] because he's very started in Territual because because they have a very competitive midfield but

[00:18:57] I like I think he's a good player and he certainly begins scored goals fritely um so it feels like

[00:19:03] that's a really competitive set of options you look at the wingback positions and you've got

[00:19:08] um de Marco I think for sure is going to start on the left if he's if he's especially listening to

[00:19:14] letty talk about that wanting to keep it into block but you have new dogey is another really like

[00:19:19] decent alternative on that side I think the right is a little bit less um convincing perhaps it was um

[00:19:27] uh roe ball and half I got the nod against Ecuador against Venezuela it was can be aso but you know

[00:19:32] you could you could ask Delaunans or to play there he obviously plays it right back in a back four

[00:19:36] more for Napoli you could ask Delaunans to play there certainly um I think Delaunans probably the

[00:19:41] safer option but you might want him in the back three um it does feel like there's quite a lot of

[00:19:47] options and a lot of spots on this team which is a nice feeling and even in goal we were having

[00:19:52] discussion right before we started recording about who you want in goal meaning you want you want

[00:19:56] someone who's who's not necessarily been getting a lot of love in that spot no I know I know

[00:20:00] everyone talks about like Vicaru has had I mean I wrote the piece about him about how he's such a

[00:20:04] brilliant goalkeeper has been not just a source of brilliance in terms of technique um at spurs but

[00:20:11] leadership as well he's been fabulous for as the season I mean he's become like a godlike status

[00:20:15] like the the the the camera is always on him when Tottenham score a goal just because they like to

[00:20:19] see his celebrations that's how important he's become for spurs but I think Providel is the best

[00:20:25] goalkeeper in Sedia I I'm obsessed with Providel so I would love for him to have had more chances

[00:20:30] and he's not even being mentioned in the three because everyone would want

[00:20:34] I play like Katna Sekki because he's obviously young and could grow into something really big

[00:20:38] and give him the opportunities now so that he could grow into that but I feel really sorry for

[00:20:42] Providel because for me I would love to have him in my team I would love to see him all the time

[00:20:46] but I would always always have Don Rumer as my starter and I think that his ability by his

[00:20:52] he was tremendous like as in that he was brilliant in the first match

[00:20:56] I say deep out against Venezuela which was again nicely they weren't creatively against Venezuela but

[00:21:03] but they had a couple of big things from Don Rumer so he would have been called Los

[00:21:07] Aniolo just out of curiosity what do you think because he's such a weird player he's been terrible

[00:21:11] for Villa right and then he's been so good actually really well at Villa there was a lot of

[00:21:16] enthusiasm for when he first got a feels that was definitely faded because I remember at the time when

[00:21:22] the the betting judgments were being handed down there was uncertainty about what his futures

[00:21:26] looked like there was a lot of anxiety about that because people felt like he's said to

[00:21:29] well they didn't want to lose him but it does feel like things have gone off the boil of the

[00:21:33] he did score in their last game I think against um

[00:21:37] against Wisham so he doesn't score in our team he misses these great chances like to me

[00:21:44] is a bit like Rafael Layout right he creates a lot great on the ball and then misses these

[00:21:48] chances that you want him to score right so it's a little bit like all bug no right yeah

[00:21:53] but he does allow the team to progress quite nicely and he's such a vertical point

[00:21:58] yeah I think with Don Yolo it's just some extent I'm not saying he's the same as Kiyazaki because

[00:22:02] they're not like they're quite different in other ways by doing their both sometimes guilty of

[00:22:05] being head down players they're not they don't look up enough and I think that's something that

[00:22:09] like dislike about them but at the same time um would I like having those options in my squad

[00:22:16] yeah I do actually I think having that that running and that ability to break lines is really

[00:22:20] interesting in both of them so look I don't think there's any of us are killing ourselves that this

[00:22:26] is one of the favorite teams in the eros but I do think I feel more positive about this team and

[00:22:30] I have a little while I think I feel like those options we just talked about at different positions

[00:22:34] are stronger than they have been for a while um I don't know if there's any other spots on the team

[00:22:39] you particularly wanted to talk about before we move on um I wanted to ask you who you would choose

[00:22:44] as your defenders well there's this will be an internex conversation because I do think we need to

[00:22:49] talk about Achaedatvi because um because it's been more moving on that story since I did my voice

[00:22:53] now last week um if we're going on football talent and putting all the considerations aside um Achaedatvi

[00:23:00] would be in my starting eleven last time he would be in my starting eleven and I think

[00:23:07] honestly I think I might just lean entirely on the block or in there and have done me on there just

[00:23:11] because let that the knowledge and the comfort books I think with defence in particular like you're

[00:23:15] you're asking people who know each other's movements ask people to know each other where each other

[00:23:19] are and that comfort with each other can be really helpful but if you're asking me on on talent I

[00:23:24] think Salveini absolutely deserves his his opportunities I think he's that he's really having a good

[00:23:28] season um so I think it's great for you though um but I would also have Salveini but would you

[00:23:37] have Califuri, Bonjourn or Mancini? I like all these players getting options but if you're saying to

[00:23:44] me this is the most important game and you want your safer cell ever and that's why turn back to

[00:23:47] the block or in there I just feel more comfortable with them because I think they they know each other

[00:23:51] okay so you start those three you start Danie and Achaedatvi and Bastonia and I'm gonna

[00:23:55] yeah I'm gonna honestly say I agree with you yeah but then who are your backups for those three

[00:24:01] um I mean I think that the names you've just been mentioning really aren't they I do think

[00:24:06] Salveini is probably the backup on the left um I think Mancini can can take that spot in the middle um

[00:24:15] I think uh I think Mancini might be the one I'm well I think different depends on the spot in

[00:24:21] the three doesn't it depends on whether you're asking for the one who's gonna hold the central spot

[00:24:25] or if you're asking for the ones you're gonna hold the outside spots they each have slightly different

[00:24:28] attributes they bring to it but I think those are the two that I feel are most ready to just step

[00:24:33] into that group I think Bon Joeur Nois is certainly um gonna have his spot in this this team in the

[00:24:39] years come but I'm not sure if I trust him quite as much yeah yeah would you rather him or Califiori

[00:24:46] not sure what do you think I'll let you answer your question I would go for Califiori person

[00:24:52] uh I think I agree with you Bon Joeur Nois the long term like isn't the well they're both long

[00:24:56] plans but would you go with the Doolongans obviously right you would definitely have come on your

[00:25:03] I trust Doolongans a lot as a defender um I think he's got that champions he experienced in us

[00:25:10] for the last bit as well with Napoli which really matters I think that that run away in the league title

[00:25:14] just teach you things like being in those competitive sides and having to win things I think teach

[00:25:18] you different things so um I think the question is just how exactly he fits because he's he plays

[00:25:24] much more in a back four and and it's it's going to be an adjustment for him either way

[00:25:29] and do I want him more as a right wing back or as uh as the right center back in the back three um

[00:25:35] I think that's exactly where Spalletti needs to practice those things and work them out and

[00:25:40] and he'll have a better insight but I do like the lot ends up as a footballer yeah I think it's also

[00:25:45] what's brilliant about Spalletti is that he talked about you know the players that he's gonna

[00:25:48] pick are those that can play different roles or can yeah um assimilate to different sort of game

[00:25:53] plans and that's what's so good about that me and right he can be your wing bank he can be a

[00:25:58] central defender um you know then you've got can be a sso who can be a winger who can be a

[00:26:05] wing bank there's there's a lot there that can be malleable in terms of what positions that

[00:26:10] they would go for um that's another thing would you take Belenovo or can be a sso if you were

[00:26:14] going to start Spalletti know about how to great yeah had a great game but can be a sso is

[00:26:20] been pretty great for you vendors yes he's done pretty good time at at UVA he has he's been

[00:26:26] he's he's not setting the world alike but you don't need every single player on your team to be

[00:26:30] a set of world alike kind of player and I think that he's he's he's showing up at his mark yeah exactly

[00:26:35] with his talent and so uh I do I think I'm more inclined towards um can be a sso but again

[00:26:43] it's always tricky when you take people out to their team context you know because because so much

[00:26:47] of what they do is based on whatever else around them is doing but I do think that he's

[00:26:52] fitting to a team that for most this season has been very competitive obviously events his

[00:26:57] form has tipped off the cliff a bit recently but um yeah I think I like him there so um and your

[00:27:04] forward line would be a retaky and who are the two behind yeah I'm doing the four team which

[00:27:09] is seeing him bits yeah I'm taking retaky right now and I'm not saying I'm taking retaky with

[00:27:14] confidence that he's the best things in sliced bread the reality is if you're looking for the weakest

[00:27:18] point in that team it's the attack doesn't question um but I I think that he scored the goals and

[00:27:24] until he stopped scoring the goals I'll I'll give him that chance I had to fast by the already who

[00:27:27] hasn't quite and demoblula who's had plenty of chances um that's not necessarily excluding those

[00:27:33] players from my squad I'm just talking about who starts um I think behind the attack uh

[00:27:38] I wish that's I can use relationship with the national team I haven't been so complicated but it

[00:27:44] has been so he's probably a bit on the outside of that of that picture right now um I think the

[00:27:49] Pelaglini's form is is really strong so I want Pelaglini there and again there's sometimes players

[00:27:54] who I think I look at them I go you know what even if you're not doing it for your club team as

[00:27:58] much as as would be ideal you keep showing up and performing well for the national team and so

[00:28:04] for that reason I think Fraterzi I think he's he hasn't been bad for him day he just has had a

[00:28:08] whole time leading into the team so I think I like Fraterzi and who knows in that case I might even say

[00:28:14] in some odd way not having started many games this season means he's got fresh legs to take

[00:28:19] into the Euro's horse would you take one of them to it uh I need to do my full squad list before

[00:28:26] I'm gonna start thinking about the um the numbers and whether or not he fits in he's he's definitely

[00:28:32] on the edge um yeah he's not he's not gonna take for me at all you didn't have a good time

[00:28:36] thinking he's gonna sway this so yeah because because I think the kids uh with all my questions about him

[00:28:42] is definitely ahead of one of into around that picking order

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