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[00:02:01] I'm your host today and I'm Nina Razzuki.

[00:02:03] And as always, I am joined by Niki Bandini

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[00:02:39] Hello everyone. How are you?

[00:02:42] Good.

[00:02:43] Yeah.

[00:02:44] I haven't cried in a very long time.

[00:02:46] I've been crying for a long time.

[00:02:48] Good.

[00:02:49] Yeah, I haven't cried in a very new football recently,

[00:02:52] but I have been...

[00:02:54] I shouldn't talk about Arsenal on here because for Serie A Chronicles,

[00:02:57] I have been enjoying Arsenal coming back top of the table.

[00:03:00] The crying comes later.

[00:03:01] The crying comes when we lose to Tottenham and it all goes wrong.

[00:03:04] Don't cry for me Argentina.

[00:03:05] Paulo de Barra, we'll get onto that, I think.

[00:03:08] No, I was slightly emotional last night

[00:03:10] when Inter scored in the last minute,

[00:03:12] not because I'm a closet Nerazuri fan,

[00:03:14] but because...

[00:03:15] It must be.

[00:03:16] I was very excited.

[00:03:17] From a purely sort of business standpoint,

[00:03:20] putting my professional hat on,

[00:03:22] which let's be honest is always pretty nearby,

[00:03:27] I was very pleased because from a narrative perspective,

[00:03:29] I love the fact that Inter can win the Scudetto and the Derby,

[00:03:32] whereas had they drawn against Doudinese

[00:03:34] and they ended up winning with a last minute goal,

[00:03:36] then we might have had this weird situation

[00:03:38] whereby Milan won in Reggio Emilia

[00:03:40] and then Inter could have gone.

[00:03:42] The goal thing equivalent of five up with five to play

[00:03:45] from a sort of match play perspective,

[00:03:47] because they might have been 15,

[00:03:49] they would have won the Derby to go 15 clear

[00:03:51] with only five matches remaining.

[00:03:53] So now they can win the Scudetto

[00:03:55] and I quite like the idea that Milan are going to be

[00:03:57] especially motivated to deny them the Scudetto

[00:03:59] by winning the Derby.

[00:04:00] So that's why I was a little bit emotional, yeah,

[00:04:03] by the fact that he's gone.

[00:04:04] Wait, is that what we think?

[00:04:05] Do we think that Milan can stop them?

[00:04:07] I think it's certainly a possibility.

[00:04:09] We're not going to stop them forever,

[00:04:11] but the idea of whether or not the title gets won there

[00:04:14] adds some spice to that game at least.

[00:04:16] Okay, I'm just putting it right here.

[00:04:18] I'm just putting it out there.

[00:04:19] If Piorli does this, if he wins that match,

[00:04:21] then everyone needs to come on here

[00:04:23] and sing Piorli's on fire.

[00:04:24] This man has been so harshly criticised this season

[00:04:27] that I think it's time to fly that flag

[00:04:29] and see and talk about how brilliant he is

[00:04:32] and how much he's not recognised for what he's done.

[00:04:35] But I do sort of want to talk about this

[00:04:38] and I do feel a little bit sorry for Udinese as well.

[00:04:41] I mean, it's heartbreaking.

[00:04:42] Fratese is that kind of threat that...

[00:04:44] Fratese belongs to Cagliere, right?

[00:04:46] Like they love these last-minute goals.

[00:04:48] But we should start with the biggest game of the weekend

[00:04:51] and it's going to be the Derby della Capitale.

[00:04:54] Of course this isn't between Jose Mourinho

[00:04:56] and Maurizio Sari anymore.

[00:04:58] So it wasn't Lazio winning as usual.

[00:05:00] It was Daniela de Hosti Zoromar

[00:05:02] who walked away with a 1-0 victory

[00:05:05] over Igor Tudor's Lazio.

[00:05:09] And producer Simon is so excited.

[00:05:11] He wanted us to create, you know,

[00:05:13] a mammothly amount of podcasts on how wonderful Roma is

[00:05:16] and Daniela de Hosti is.

[00:05:18] I'm not exaggerating.

[00:05:20] So let's start with the biggest match of the season.

[00:05:25] Gianluca Mancini is the man who gets the goal for Roma.

[00:05:30] And I'll be honest with you guys,

[00:05:32] this was a spicy game in the second half

[00:05:34] but we all looked at this before

[00:05:36] and thought on paper, Roma's the better team, right?

[00:05:42] I think that's what we said when we talked about it beforehand.

[00:05:46] I definitely expected Roma to win.

[00:05:48] It wasn't a great Derby.

[00:05:50] The football wasn't vintage.

[00:05:53] It was a scrappy game.

[00:05:55] Roma were the better team

[00:05:57] but they were not their compelling best.

[00:06:00] They've been better than this under Derby di Sari.

[00:06:03] They definitely look like what they are,

[00:06:05] which is a team that's had a manager in the door

[00:06:08] for more than five minutes and so is a bit more coherent.

[00:06:11] I think there were things that you recognised in that team.

[00:06:14] You went, yes, these are clear marks of what Derossi's done.

[00:06:17] I think being an obvious part of that being the interactions

[00:06:21] between Pellegrini and Di Bala

[00:06:23] and the fullback on the right-hand side.

[00:06:25] Just all of those sort of interactions,

[00:06:27] the ability to swap places is so much smoother

[00:06:29] than it was under Mourinho.

[00:06:31] There was much more positivity

[00:06:33] and creativity than I think we've seen in these games under Mourinho.

[00:06:36] That's kind of the big thing, you touched on it there.

[00:06:39] It's impossible not to frame this as

[00:06:42] it's the post-Mourinho and Sari Derby

[00:06:44] because Mourinho lost four out of six Derbys.

[00:06:47] He drew another one so anyone wants.

[00:06:49] It's not a coincidence.

[00:06:51] He got fired six days after losing Derby.

[00:06:53] The fact is just this was that Mourinho's gone.

[00:06:57] Now we've got Derossi.

[00:06:58] We've got the Roman and what a moment for him

[00:07:01] to win one as a manager now as well.

[00:07:03] That's true, Patrick.

[00:07:04] When you think about it, Roma haven't even scored

[00:07:06] since exactly two years ago, it was March 2022,

[00:07:09] that they actually played this game and scored goals.

[00:07:13] Now you look at this and you think,

[00:07:15] finally they're starting to show us what they can do,

[00:07:17] what they are capable of.

[00:07:19] Did you expect any other result than a Roma win?

[00:07:22] I think it was just a question

[00:07:24] whether Roma could score and ultimately

[00:07:26] they needed a set piece to do so.

[00:07:28] We've become used to these very tight Derbys.

[00:07:30] The 1-0 win for Lazio in the cup,

[00:07:32] there were a pair of wins for Lazio.

[00:07:34] 1-0 last season at the reverse fixture was goalless.

[00:07:38] It had become very turgid.

[00:07:40] Mourinho was keeping things tight.

[00:07:42] It's one of those where they say,

[00:07:44] you don't play Derby as you win them.

[00:07:48] Actually what it had become was

[00:07:50] you didn't see Derby or Derby.

[00:07:52] It was a case of trying to avoid defeat

[00:07:54] so as for fear of the opposition getting one over on you.

[00:07:58] As soon as Mancini scored,

[00:08:00] it did feel like Roma had done most of the heavy lifting

[00:08:03] because Lazio never looked like scoring.

[00:08:05] He modulated chance, not withstanding

[00:08:07] when that was Mancini ironically giving the ball away.

[00:08:10] The Derby you mentioned,

[00:08:13] there was nice symmetry to it

[00:08:15] because we'd gone full circle

[00:08:17] because it was the Tammy Abraham Derby

[00:08:19] that one when he scored a brace in the 3-0 win

[00:08:21] and he returned after 10 months on the sidelines

[00:08:23] in the Derby against Lazio.

[00:08:25] That was a icing on the cake for Roma

[00:08:27] and what was basically a perfect day

[00:08:29] Derossi winning his first Derby in the dugout.

[00:08:31] I loved Derossi when he said,

[00:08:33] I sort of took him off the leash,

[00:08:35] gave him a chance, saying I can't wait,

[00:08:37] I can't wait in the way that he described it.

[00:08:39] The imagery I can just imagine of Abraham

[00:08:41] just running around him,

[00:08:43] can I play, can I play, can I play?

[00:08:45] And him being like alright, just go my son.

[00:08:48] But the characters were important.

[00:08:50] Mostly what I love this game for

[00:08:52] and I'm going to say this is my favourite bit.

[00:08:54] This is a bit that actually made me

[00:08:56] think of the guy who played in the

[00:08:58] World Cup in Di Bala.

[00:09:00] Which is when he took out,

[00:09:02] imagine when he took out his shin pad

[00:09:04] and was like look at me winning

[00:09:06] the World Cup to Gwen Duzzi.

[00:09:08] That for me was that, here's the thing,

[00:09:10] yeah I hate antagonistic behaviour.

[00:09:12] I hate it sometimes when players just engage

[00:09:14] in a lot of this shit house story.

[00:09:16] But this kind of level of shit house story,

[00:09:18] this is like my bread and butter.

[00:09:20] I lived for this.

[00:09:22] I mean I watch Italian football for this.

[00:09:24] I watched some of those

[00:09:26] petty, brilliant level of shit house

[00:09:28] that made me think oh you've got to come

[00:09:30] back to Yves and do this.

[00:09:32] Guys I miss you.

[00:09:34] I love that.

[00:09:36] It was just absolutely brilliant.

[00:09:38] And I thought

[00:09:40] Gianluca Mancini is just

[00:09:42] walking around with that flag

[00:09:44] that has the rat on it and was like

[00:09:46] oh I'm sorry I had no idea.

[00:09:48] Genuinely seems like he really had

[00:09:50] no idea what he was doing.

[00:09:52] And I think that's the thing

[00:09:54] that's really important to me

[00:09:56] is that he's a man who has

[00:09:58] always said that his idol

[00:10:00] in defence from all the Italian

[00:10:02] defenders in the world,

[00:10:04] his idol and the man

[00:10:06] whose tattoo, the number

[00:10:08] of his shirt tattooed on his body

[00:10:10] is Materazzi.

[00:10:12] Imagine thinking Materazzi

[00:10:14] is your idol as a defender.

[00:10:16] Marco Materazzi won us a World Cup

[00:10:18] so Marco Materazzi will forever be

[00:10:20] a man who had more

[00:10:22] interact and more involvement in that

[00:10:24] than just the thing that everyone talks about with him.

[00:10:26] It was, I mean it was

[00:10:28] that was what I enjoyed about it as well

[00:10:30] it was a derby like it you want the derby

[00:10:32] to be there's a line

[00:10:34] you don't want it to cross and unfortunately

[00:10:36] their own derby almost always does cross it

[00:10:38] I think once again we had some running

[00:10:40] battles outside and that stuff's never good

[00:10:42] and perhaps there's always an argument

[00:10:44] should players be sitting a better example

[00:10:46] but I'm with you.

[00:10:48] And has literally

[00:10:50] a picture of him winning the World Cup.

[00:10:52] So Guendouzi for context in case no one didn't know this

[00:10:54] there's been an altercation between Guendouzi and Dabala

[00:10:56] and Guendouzi was in the French team

[00:10:58] that lost the World Cup France to Argentina

[00:11:00] but he was on the bench, he didn't play

[00:11:02] bit of a player.

[00:11:04] Yeah so the idea that

[00:11:06] I mean you just think to yourself did Dabala plan that?

[00:11:08] Did he think before the game maybe this will happen

[00:11:10] or where the shim pads?

[00:11:12] He's probably wearing those shim pads every game because

[00:11:14] he's won the World Cup but

[00:11:16] he's not really

[00:11:18] and petty and very funny.

[00:11:20] Mancini's

[00:11:22] I mean Mancini's a bit of an idiot just because

[00:11:24] he's going to get suspended for it most likely

[00:11:26] they're investigating it, they haven't made a judgement yet

[00:11:28] and if you wave around a big flag with

[00:11:30] your opponent's colours and their rat on it

[00:11:32] you're probably going to get in some trouble for it

[00:11:34] but I also

[00:11:36] suppose I can understand

[00:11:38] losing the run of yourself is a defender

[00:11:40] he doesn't score very often and I think he threw his shorts

[00:11:42] into the crowd, he generally was

[00:11:44] most controlled

[00:11:46] at the end of that game.

[00:11:48] That's often been one in Italian football as well isn't it?

[00:11:50] In other parts of the world you limit yourself

[00:11:52] to sort of throwing your shirts in but the amount

[00:11:54] of times we've seen

[00:11:56] muscular Italian men just wearing

[00:11:58] white fronts stood by the Codva down the years

[00:12:00] is...

[00:12:02] Cassano, how many times do I say Cassano on his pants

[00:12:04] in his career?

[00:12:06] Fulcinić, I feel like he was always in his pants as well

[00:12:08] Fulcinić, ex-froamer player as well

[00:12:10] so yeah there you go probably during his UVA time

[00:12:12] what I liked as well coming back to the sort of

[00:12:14] symmetry of it again it was

[00:12:16] de Rossi had spoken about his first

[00:12:18] derby as a player and how Mancini

[00:12:20] the Brazilian had scored a back heel in that

[00:12:22] game and we went full circle from Mancini

[00:12:24] to Mancini same spelling but

[00:12:26] a different pronunciation

[00:12:28] and it's weird

[00:12:30] this stuff about rats because it seems to be

[00:12:32] a real sort of common refrain for

[00:12:34] fan bases to chide one another

[00:12:36] over you know it's a

[00:12:38] common insult among supporters Topo

[00:12:40] Defoni, you know, sewer rat, gutter rat

[00:12:42] quite literally so that's probably

[00:12:44] what Mancini was going for there but yeah

[00:12:46] I had the usual stuff

[00:12:48] unfortunately surrounding the derby

[00:12:50] and Di Balon not only

[00:12:52] showed his shin pads but I think there was also

[00:12:54] a still of him grabbing his

[00:12:56] balls post-match in the direction

[00:12:58] of Gen Duzzi so yeah it

[00:13:00] reminded me a bit of Emi Martinez

[00:13:02] who I know Niki's a fan

[00:13:04] of ex Arsenal goalkeeper

[00:13:06] with his... was it the

[00:13:08] Golden Club wasn't it that he was holding

[00:13:10] down by his

[00:13:12] abdomen let's put it that way

[00:13:14] It's terrible isn't it because

[00:13:16] I simultaneously sort of think that

[00:13:18] you sort of have to have certain levels

[00:13:20] of responsibility as a footballer

[00:13:22] to not set up bad examples but

[00:13:24] I did laugh a lot when Emi Martinez did that

[00:13:26] at the time and I have to admit it and Di Balon

[00:13:28] maybe laughed again this time so

[00:13:30] It's really an article about the emotion

[00:13:32] out of football you can't there has to be

[00:13:34] some of that nonsense allowed

[00:13:36] I thought okay I'm going to be honest

[00:13:38] to you I thought like Argentina's level of

[00:13:40] shithouse when they won the World Cup was bordering

[00:13:42] on the annoying for me because it was like okay

[00:13:44] well you know like they just was so

[00:13:46] almost rude

[00:13:48] in the way that they celebrated

[00:13:50] but Di Balon doing that was so

[00:13:52] like a kid going up to be like I want

[00:13:54] I want I just there was just this bit about it

[00:13:56] It's too childish, it's too childish

[00:13:58] but in a funny way that's the thing

[00:14:00] Yes it wasn't it wasn't offensive

[00:14:02] it was just it was funny I don't know

[00:14:04] whether it's my child's humor but

[00:14:06] in all honesty like if I'm choosing

[00:14:08] I mean I started off

[00:14:10] my I was going to say my career but I started

[00:14:12] off my childhood as being a Lazio fan

[00:14:14] and Igor Tudor is obviously a U-Fan

[00:14:16] display so if there was anyone that I could

[00:14:18] choose in this I should have been choosing

[00:14:20] Lazio for this as a you know

[00:14:22] as a neutral if I was going to side with

[00:14:24] the team and yet I found

[00:14:26] myself so desperate for Roma

[00:14:28] to win and I and I don't know

[00:14:30] whether you get carried away with a

[00:14:32] Daniela de Rossi narrative

[00:14:34] whether it's watching him

[00:14:36] you know sort of lead this team

[00:14:38] as a

[00:14:40] as a captain, as a great

[00:14:42] player, as a legend

[00:14:44] to now you know doing it as a coach

[00:14:46] but there is also something about Igor Tudor

[00:14:48] and I am a little bit worried about Lazio

[00:14:50] it's about just a fire to come in and have to play Juventus twice

[00:14:52] and then Roma I mean it's not an easy schedule

[00:14:54] but there is a part of me that's

[00:14:56] like I just like the way that you've

[00:14:59] spoken throughout and I've

[00:15:01] not been really happy with the way that he's presented

[00:15:03] himself in the media we spoke about this last

[00:15:05] week and he said I want to change

[00:15:07] everything his team looked

[00:15:09] so confused at some

[00:15:11] points on a tactical level

[00:15:13] and I just thought that you know having

[00:15:15] all these ambitions and coming in to

[00:15:17] try to show us how to play the Igor Tudor

[00:15:19] way to show us that you know

[00:15:21] these are your strengths you play with this

[00:15:23] kind of formation you want this kind

[00:15:25] of high-press with the team that you

[00:15:27] haven't had a full summer to train to give

[00:15:29] them the athletic condition that they may need

[00:15:31] how much is this about

[00:15:33] Lazio not really being

[00:15:35] a team that has

[00:15:37] I guess threatened at all

[00:15:39] this season and how much is

[00:15:41] this about Roma story

[00:15:45] I think it depends kind of what you mean

[00:15:47] by how much is it about I mean

[00:15:49] are we going to talk about Dorosy when he

[00:15:51] is the kid who grew up

[00:15:53] to be the captain eventually

[00:15:55] after being captain Fultoro and now get to see

[00:15:57] the present the current manager

[00:15:59] of course we're going to talk about him of course it's going to be his story

[00:16:01] if we're talking about

[00:16:03] footballing terms is there more to it than

[00:16:05] just that yes I think

[00:16:07] Lazio have a

[00:16:09] as important as sort of threading

[00:16:11] this story and how we get this result

[00:16:13] I think that

[00:16:15] you just said it mean a ridiculously hard

[00:16:17] set of games come into he did win the first one

[00:16:19] against Juventus Igor Tudor but to have to

[00:16:21] then go and play them again what three days later

[00:16:23] in the cup and then come back for a Derby

[00:16:25] it's he's asking a lot and he said as much

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[00:17:59] player for player

[00:18:01] since Malinkovic Savage left and

[00:18:03] we've talked this to death this season wasn't really

[00:18:05] well replaced there's a clear

[00:18:07] talent gap between Romand and Lazio I

[00:18:09] think if I go player for player through those teams

[00:18:11] there's no question in my head that

[00:18:13] Romand have a more talented team

[00:18:15] but I also think it's reasonable for

[00:18:17] Tudor to say look I've been here all week

[00:18:19] we played three games in seven days it's too

[00:18:21] much for the squad we have right now I think he's right and by

[00:18:23] the way Maritziasari was talking endlessly

[00:18:25] about how his squad was not

[00:18:27] actually matter games they were playing before he

[00:18:29] left as well his court between the rock and

[00:18:31] hard place those in the sense that

[00:18:33] you know he's clearly been recruited

[00:18:35] because salary has resigned

[00:18:37] and that's your want to go with something

[00:18:39] different which is why they've identified his

[00:18:41] profile in the first place so the reason

[00:18:43] he's in a job is because they want to break

[00:18:45] with that 433 system they want

[00:18:47] to go with something different so he's right

[00:18:49] to try and incorporate his ideas his ideas

[00:18:51] are naturally quite complex like

[00:18:53] any modern coach worth their salt would

[00:18:55] have complex footballing philosophies so

[00:18:57] you either take the very short-term view and

[00:18:59] say there's nothing I can do with the volume

[00:19:01] of games that we have we don't have enough

[00:19:03] training sessions at Fort Mello to

[00:19:05] properly work on these concepts

[00:19:07] so we're better off sticking to what we

[00:19:09] do and waiting for the summer

[00:19:11] but equally he's also needs to get results between

[00:19:13] now the end of the season to justify why

[00:19:15] he's been hired in the first place so I think it's a very

[00:19:17] tough balance to strike I think he was

[00:19:19] there was a bit of

[00:19:21] it was slightly

[00:19:23] misleading that result against Juventus yes

[00:19:25] they were bold Juventus were poor

[00:19:27] but if Latio don't score that added time goal

[00:19:29] then maybe we're talking about a goalless draw

[00:19:31] to start they haven't then scored you know maybe

[00:19:33] we're talking about three games without scoring

[00:19:35] if Marisic doesn't score that header and that's

[00:19:37] the young kid second love for Juventus on his debut

[00:19:39] who loses Marisic in the first place

[00:19:41] so I think there's huge work

[00:19:43] to be done I don't envy him at all

[00:19:45] I think there's almost an impossible task back to

[00:19:47] back games against Juventus and then the Derby to start

[00:19:49] with and I think we can only start to

[00:19:51] judge two door properly

[00:19:53] as in when he's had 10 games of next season

[00:19:55] but the problem is you have to judge him because it's

[00:19:57] football and he needs to get results between

[00:19:59] now the end of the season otherwise they could find

[00:20:01] themselves on the bottom half of the table Latio

[00:20:03] you know it's an interesting thing that we

[00:20:05] should sort of perhaps discuss about coming

[00:20:07] coaches coming in you know because a lot of

[00:20:09] the times we've spoken about you know he hasn't

[00:20:11] changed everything like in Zaghi with Conte

[00:20:13] or Allegri with Conte it was it was a slow

[00:20:15] change and incorporating their

[00:20:17] idea slowly and then you have

[00:20:19] a look at sort of Daniela Derossi who came in

[00:20:21] at Roma and the team went from

[00:20:23] being a low block that defended with all their lives

[00:20:25] to being a very attacking

[00:20:27] compact team so I wonder

[00:20:29] you know what is the right way to come

[00:20:31] in and you know do you shake up a squad

[00:20:33] straight away do you introduce your idea slowly

[00:20:35] that's probably a discussion for

[00:20:37] another day but I think

[00:20:39] that it's it's worth noting that

[00:20:41] Derossi doesn't have the job there were

[00:20:43] rumours about

[00:20:45] Manuel Pellegrini coming in which

[00:20:47] he's had to deny because it's probably

[00:20:49] worth mentioning that there wasn't a La Liga

[00:20:51] round because they had the Copa del Rey

[00:20:53] to play so Spanish

[00:20:55] teams were off up to

[00:20:57] 10 days they haven't played football so a

[00:20:59] lot of the coaches have gone away

[00:21:01] he went away with his family Pellegrini

[00:21:03] to Rome and because he went

[00:21:05] to watch the match people now think he's going to be the next coach

[00:21:07] of Roma

[00:21:09] but it's nice to be given the job full

[00:21:11] time now that's what I like enough

[00:21:13] two-year contracts already been drafted for Derossi

[00:21:15] apparently they're just waiting to

[00:21:17] actually officially consign it so I think

[00:21:19] it's pretty much nailed on at the stage

[00:21:21] given the freedkins have been

[00:21:23] pretty upfront all the way along that getting back in

[00:21:25] the Champions League was number one goal if he delivers

[00:21:27] the Champions League which is like it's

[00:21:29] not done at Atlanta they win the game

[00:21:31] and hand are still within

[00:21:33] three points it's still not certain

[00:21:35] that it will get the fifth Champions League spot it looks likely

[00:21:37] but it's not done yet

[00:21:39] but if he gets them into the Champions League I think

[00:21:41] even if you think

[00:21:43] and I'm sure some people do that I know people do

[00:21:45] because they wrote it all under my column this week

[00:21:47] that even if you think he's just another Oleg

[00:21:49] Nassosha you kind of just have to let him

[00:21:51] do it you kind of let it

[00:21:53] let him have that chance if he's earned it

[00:21:55] and I think that's

[00:21:57] reason to believe he's more than just Oleg Nassosha

[00:21:59] actually

[00:22:01] I'm surprised I didn't want things that

[00:22:03] because the level of the way that

[00:22:05] the team moves the tactical movement like

[00:22:07] he's just not but anyway

[00:22:09] I think there's just the different stories

[00:22:11] really when you get into it

[00:22:13] Derossi is the son of a coach

[00:22:15] he's someone who grew up with someone who

[00:22:17] ran the Roma's

[00:22:19] youth system for a really long time I think

[00:22:21] there's a completely different context to his

[00:22:23] life story and I think there was an assumption

[00:22:25] perhaps when he came in that he wouldn't know anything about coaching and

[00:22:27] I still don't

[00:22:29] think we can say anything like oh he's the next

[00:22:31] great Italian manager but I think he's

[00:22:33] shown he's got at least some

[00:22:35] some more to him than

[00:22:37] people might have assumed

[00:22:39] and fans are always willing to give you time to learn

[00:22:41] on the job when you are indeed a legend

[00:22:43] or somebody that belongs to them

[00:22:45] and when you win the Derby, that's the thing with Trudia as well

[00:22:47] for both of these men these games

[00:22:49] matter most in Roma they just do

[00:22:51] they just do indeed

[00:22:53] okay so that's done and Roma continue

[00:22:55] to push for a top four

[00:22:57] place but like we said top five

[00:22:59] may well be enough a Champions League

[00:23:01] in Serie A

[00:23:03] let's move on to Inter because Roma have spoken about them

[00:23:05] and this was a tricky game against

[00:23:07] Doudinese because they actually

[00:23:09] went a goal behind

[00:23:11] Patrick you were

[00:23:13] commenting on this particular match

[00:23:15] and I was

[00:23:17] listening as you were talking about

[00:23:19] the mix up that led to Doudinese's

[00:23:21] first goal

[00:23:23] obviously Inter then get a penalty

[00:23:25] and then Fletezy comes

[00:23:27] in with one of his glorious

[00:23:29] abilities to score a tap in

[00:23:31] at the end of the game to seal

[00:23:33] the win and then set up this

[00:23:35] perfect narrative that they go

[00:23:37] to the Derby and potentially

[00:23:39] win the second star

[00:23:41] the Scudetto at San Siro

[00:23:43] in the against Milan

[00:23:45] um

[00:23:47] and Patrick

[00:23:49] two yellow cards for Lauta

[00:23:51] Martínez and Pavard so that they would

[00:23:53] miss Cagliari so that they are

[00:23:55] all available

[00:23:57] for Milan as well

[00:23:59] so a little bit of a Mourinho style tactics there too

[00:24:01] from Inter

[00:24:03] what do you think?

[00:24:05] I don't want to say do you think they're going to beat Milan

[00:24:07] but

[00:24:09] it's interesting actually because when I saw those two yellow cards

[00:24:11] and they were both late on

[00:24:13] it was still one all so there was a hint of desperation

[00:24:15] about Inter because had they drawn then

[00:24:17] everything would have been shelved in terms of those plans

[00:24:19] but Pavard

[00:24:21] and Lautana they were both quite cynical

[00:24:23] challenges so I'm not sure whether it was a deliberate

[00:24:25] yellow card or not I feel like if you are trying to get

[00:24:27] book you do it much earlier

[00:24:29] in the game and then the suspension

[00:24:31] is done

[00:24:33] it's always a very difficult

[00:24:35] balancing out there

[00:24:37] when you're broadcasting as to whether to allude

[00:24:39] to that without outright

[00:24:41] accusing the players of

[00:24:43] cynicism or even cheating

[00:24:45] basically I guess it's not cheating

[00:24:47] it's being cynical but anyway

[00:24:49] coming to the main story

[00:24:51] itself I think it's a strange one

[00:24:53] because

[00:24:55] if you think about it the last time

[00:24:57] Inter won the Scudetto under Antonio Conte

[00:24:59] the Scudetto was sealed

[00:25:01] with a game at the Mappe Stadium

[00:25:03] in Reggio Emilia as Atalanta failing

[00:25:05] to beat Sassuolo and Inter were champions

[00:25:07] without playing

[00:25:09] Milan go to Reggio Emilia next

[00:25:11] which is the ground where they won the Scudetto

[00:25:13] two years ago

[00:25:15] and if Milan were to lose to Sassuolo

[00:25:17] and then Inter beat Cagliari

[00:25:19] later that day we might even have

[00:25:21] Inter as being champions before the Derby

[00:25:23] it's unexpected but Sassuolo are

[00:25:25] Milan's bogey team

[00:25:27] Sassuolo are scrapping for their lives

[00:25:29] and we saw last night with Udinese

[00:25:31] in a relegation battle just how awkward these fixtures can be

[00:25:33] I think I've been hearing a lot of talk about

[00:25:35] how easy I know we'll get to Atalanta later on

[00:25:37] but there's been a lot of talk about

[00:25:39] how easy Atalanta is running

[00:25:41] because they're playing X, Y and Z

[00:25:43] but what you find is unless you find

[00:25:45] unless you're up against those teams that are in mid-table

[00:25:47] there's a very small band of mid-table teams

[00:25:49] like Genoa, Monza and Serino

[00:25:51] unless you're playing those everyone else has something tangible

[00:25:53] to play for so I think that

[00:25:55] Inter's home game against Cagliari won't be a formality

[00:25:57] especially with Cagliari having beaten Atalanta

[00:25:59] but it was great to see again

[00:26:01] because Fratesi got his first Inter goal

[00:26:03] in the Derby that came in added time

[00:26:05] he was the one who scored the winning goal

[00:26:07] against Verona on Epiphany

[00:26:09] so that was Inter's first league game of 2024

[00:26:11] they won 10 in a row from there

[00:26:13] they've only dropped two points that game against Napoli

[00:26:15] and it looked like they were going to drop more points

[00:26:17] and what I loved was just the outpouring of emotion

[00:26:19] and the reaction to this goal

[00:26:21] it felt like that they had done the hardest bit

[00:26:25] Arnautovic back for Alexis Sanchez

[00:26:27] Lautaro Martinez

[00:26:29] and Salli for Fratesi

[00:26:33] just like in January against Verona

[00:26:35] Davide Fratesi comes up with a match winning moment

[00:26:39] and Inter are now

[00:26:41] within two wins of the Scudetto

[00:26:43] Inter come from behind to win

[00:26:47] there's just no stopping the Nerazzurri

[00:26:49] I think they believe it will be a formality

[00:26:51] they'll beat Cagliari and then they'll back themselves

[00:26:53] to beat Milan in yet another Derby

[00:26:55] having won five from five in 2023

[00:26:57] I felt the reaction too was really interesting

[00:26:59] because I do think that

[00:27:01] as journalists

[00:27:03] we've been guilty

[00:27:05] I think I've been guilty of

[00:27:07] looking at this title and treating it for a while

[00:27:09] it's a foreclosure

[00:27:11] because they've been so far in front

[00:27:13] and I do think it's a foreclosure

[00:27:15] I do think they're going to win

[00:27:17] but I think that

[00:27:19] in some ways

[00:27:21] as viewers

[00:27:23] and as journalists we can allow that

[00:27:25] to almost downgrade it in some way in our minds

[00:27:27] like I said it's not a big deal

[00:27:29] because they've been doing it for such a long time

[00:27:31] and I think that that celebration

[00:27:33] was a very vivid visual reminder

[00:27:35] that they've worked really bloody hard for it

[00:27:37] like it's not

[00:27:39] the fact that they've made it look easy

[00:27:41] doesn't mean that it's easy

[00:27:43] the fact that they've made it look easy

[00:27:45] just a reflection of how good they've been

[00:27:47] and the fact that it's not

[00:27:49] perhaps the season we believe they could have

[00:27:51] where they could have gone far in the Champions League as well

[00:27:53] doesn't make it actually less of a deal

[00:27:55] for them to win Cereba Cosmos

[00:27:57] those players will win league titles

[00:27:59] either for some it will be the first time they've ever won one

[00:28:01] for some it will be

[00:28:03] one of a very small handful of league titles

[00:28:05] they win in their career

[00:28:07] there's a World Cup, there's always the Champions League

[00:28:09] but there is a limited window

[00:28:11] you have as a professional footballer to win

[00:28:13] big European

[00:28:15] domestically titles

[00:28:17] and these players have really earned it

[00:28:19] so it was a really

[00:28:21] it was a great celebration as Patrick says

[00:28:23] I do need

[00:28:25] Flatizzi to do this for Italy in the summer

[00:28:27] need him to be that super

[00:28:29] last minute game winner for us

[00:28:31] just putting that on record now

[00:28:33] but

[00:28:35] it was a

[00:28:37] it was a fellow

[00:28:39] another well deserved moment of celebration

[00:28:41] for Inter they've been better than this

[00:28:43] this season this wasn't their best of performance

[00:28:45] but that willingness to go to the end of games

[00:28:47] has been one of their traits domestically

[00:28:49] at least

[00:28:51] yeah and we have to recognise

[00:28:53] the fact that we've seen this team

[00:28:55] provide the

[00:28:57] consistency that you require

[00:28:59] of champions, Chaneloglu has been

[00:29:01] bringing in so for so much of the season

[00:29:03] it's really interesting for him to

[00:29:05] win the title against Milan

[00:29:07] he's trying to keep a poker face

[00:29:09] about all of it

[00:29:11] but it's also this is

[00:29:13] if he scores

[00:29:15] the goal that seals the

[00:29:17] it's just quite likely given he takes penalties as well

[00:29:19] you can easily get a penalty in the derby

[00:29:21] can you imagine the celebrations and his first

[00:29:23] Inter goal came in the derby as well

[00:29:25] would you not take out a shin pad

[00:29:27] and just show us Ibrahimovic

[00:29:29] that's what I would do

[00:29:31] what would he have on it

[00:29:33] would you have AI

[00:29:35] predicting what the title celebrations

[00:29:37] would look like

[00:29:39] so an open top fast with Inter fans surrounding it

[00:29:41] and the Inter players doing chance

[00:29:43] derogatory chance in the direction of

[00:29:45] Ibrahimovic, I tell you what

[00:29:47] really felt like

[00:29:49] you know we just sometimes

[00:29:51] we know Inter are going to win the league

[00:29:53] but it's just like we knew that when Napoli were going to win the league

[00:29:55] and someone made a very good comparison

[00:29:57] last night to me on Twitter said

[00:29:59] that the Asperdori added time volley against Juventus

[00:30:01] when it was the sort of final hurdle

[00:30:03] that overcome for Napoli last season

[00:30:05] but what it reminded me of a bit last night

[00:30:07] was how different Inter are

[00:30:09] Inter are to two years ago

[00:30:11] because that soma mistake

[00:30:13] is not dissimilar really to the Radu mistake

[00:30:15] at Bologna, it's a slapstick goalkeeping moment

[00:30:17] you know it was Radu

[00:30:19] scoring an own goal with that

[00:30:21] Pederzic throw back to him

[00:30:23] and he swept it almost it was going across the line

[00:30:25] and Nicola Sansone

[00:30:27] and this was Samaric

[00:30:29] just with a shot which deflected

[00:30:31] of Carlos Augusto

[00:30:33] Dumfries could have stepped in and cleared it

[00:30:35] soma should have grabbed it, neither player did anything

[00:30:37] and the ball went into the net and you think

[00:30:39] after all the brilliance

[00:30:41] after you've been almost flawless throughout this season

[00:30:43] to not be able to win the title

[00:30:45] with five games to spare against your great rivals

[00:30:47] who you're trying to get to 20 titles ahead of

[00:30:49] because of one shocking moment like that

[00:30:51] just would have felt very unfair so I think

[00:30:53] Inter almost deserved to go on and get that winner

[00:30:55] and Fratese just shows that

[00:30:57] he seems to have a knack for knowing where the ball

[00:30:59] dropped because that was his fourth attempt

[00:31:01] of the match and eventually it was why

[00:31:03] couldn't really miss

[00:31:05] I had this stat that I was going to bring in

[00:31:07] and after the scenes of the other

[00:31:09] it's making me sort of laugh at it

[00:31:11] because I was thinking

[00:31:13] talking about the end of games and Inter

[00:31:15] being the Fino Alifina team really this season

[00:31:17] being what the eventists have always wanted to find themselves as

[00:31:19] last 15 minutes of Serie A games

[00:31:21] Inter have outscored opponents

[00:31:23] 18 goals to 1

[00:31:25] so if you just play the last 15 minutes

[00:31:27] 18 goals to 1 and that's a pretty astonishing statistic

[00:31:29] right no one else is close to that

[00:31:31] the thing is though because it's Inter

[00:31:33] you could pick a different time in the game

[00:31:35] you go first 15 minutes

[00:31:37] 10 to 0 in the first 15 minutes

[00:31:39] so actually they're just outscoring everyone all the time

[00:31:41] is the point really isn't it?

[00:31:43] Yeah, they really are.

[00:31:45] Dare I say I don't think statistics

[00:31:47] they don't discriminate with added time

[00:31:49] so there were seven minutes of added time

[00:31:51] they eventually played nine so if you think about it

[00:31:53] that last window is always just like

[00:31:55] the window going into halftime but typically

[00:31:57] you'd only get two or three minutes max

[00:31:59] halftime was ever since the Qatar World Cup

[00:32:01] I feel like we're getting five or six minutes

[00:32:03] minimum to be honest

[00:32:05] I just want a second to say that

[00:32:07] I wrote a piece

[00:32:09] because Nzagi's being linked to some big jobs

[00:32:11] and I was going through

[00:32:13] some of my research

[00:32:15] on Nzagi over the years

[00:32:17] and

[00:32:19] on April 4

[00:32:21] so on the 1st of April last year they lost to

[00:32:23] Fiorentina Inter

[00:32:25] and Gazette de la Sport at the time

[00:32:27] had written

[00:32:29] it would be ludicrous to imagine that Nzagi

[00:32:31] would still keep his job at the end

[00:32:33] of the season and unless

[00:32:35] he wins the Champions League and that would be

[00:32:37] utopian and it was

[00:32:39] it's incredible to see how one year later

[00:32:41] the Manresa Champions League final is winning the

[00:32:43] Scudetto and he is finally being

[00:32:45] recognised for the brilliant

[00:32:47] competition that he has been

[00:32:49] not just at Inter but at Lazio

[00:32:51] so you know how we were all a little bit happy for

[00:32:53] Sadie when he was winning it

[00:32:55] because he deserved it

[00:32:57] he deserved to lift the Scudetto

[00:32:59] I think this is Nzagi's moment

[00:33:01] and he really deserves to be up there

[00:33:03] to get the plaudits

[00:33:05] and I feel like he's been fighting the shadow of

[00:33:07] Antonio Conte for so long after he arrived

[00:33:09] and then it was

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[00:34:19] but I look at Mekaterian and I think that you made

[00:34:21] this guy such a brilliant force

[00:34:23] and you've made so many others

[00:34:25] and you've addressed

[00:34:27] a lot of the weaknesses that people have accused

[00:34:29] you of before so

[00:34:31] congratulations to him

[00:34:33] it's not going so well

[00:34:35] of course you vent his

[00:34:37] but Allegri did finally get the win

[00:34:39] there is all these

[00:34:41] rumors about how much he's been shouting

[00:34:43] at the team, how much

[00:34:45] they risk going and conceding

[00:34:47] at the final minute because once again

[00:34:49] you can only play for one half

[00:34:51] that could be the first half, that could be the second

[00:34:53] half take your pick it's always exciting to know

[00:34:55] which half they're gonna show up in

[00:34:57] that's about as exciting as it gets when you're a

[00:34:59] you vent his fan at the moment

[00:35:01] are they gonna start off really well or are they gonna end it really well

[00:35:03] either way it was

[00:35:05] a 1-0 victory over Fiorentina

[00:35:07] which means they're back to winning ways I don't think we need to talk about them

[00:35:09] very much because obviously we've covered them

[00:35:11] you know so often

[00:35:13] but it's probably

[00:35:15] it's probably worth noting that

[00:35:17] Fabrizio Romano has talked about the fact that he thinks

[00:35:19] Allegri will leave at the end of the season

[00:35:21] and that this is the final year

[00:35:23] there is, there does seem to be a

[00:35:25] disconnect but interestingly

[00:35:27] more than ever I've seen a lot of pro-Alegri comments

[00:35:29] this week so

[00:35:31] I wonder what's going on there

[00:35:33] a lot of people blaming whether the squad

[00:35:35] for being so mediocre that it's almost impossible

[00:35:37] to represent Juventus

[00:35:39] with this level of talent

[00:35:41] either way, Flavage seems to be a

[00:35:43] Juventus level player

[00:35:45] I doubt, I mean

[00:35:47] is it just

[00:35:49] the

[00:35:51] the mutibular of the X

[00:35:55] is it that or is it I mean

[00:35:57] I think he's a very good player

[00:35:59] but I've constantly maintained that

[00:36:01] to be honest I don't think he's

[00:36:03] necessarily world class but I think he's

[00:36:05] one of the five best

[00:36:07] strikers in Italy

[00:36:09] and actually I would say five best forwards

[00:36:11] you know I would

[00:36:13] he's one of the best number nine

[00:36:15] it's not the best number nine

[00:36:17] it's not the best, oh you think he's better than

[00:36:19] Awesome in all Aotearo

[00:36:21] I think Aotearo is more of a nine and a half

[00:36:23] I think Flavage

[00:36:25] in terms of potential

[00:36:27] is better than Giroux

[00:36:29] I think Giroux is off to Major League Soccer now

[00:36:31] yeah I think if you put him in

[00:36:33] goal scoring positions he can score

[00:36:35] more goals than he's got more to his game

[00:36:37] than Giroux, I'm a big Giroux fan

[00:36:39] don't get me wrong but I think

[00:36:41] the difference between Giroux and Flavage

[00:36:43] is Giroux has squeezed out every last drop

[00:36:45] of talent through intelligence

[00:36:47] and work rate whereas I think Flavage

[00:36:49] can occasionally be a little bit complacent

[00:36:51] and his temperament still lets him down

[00:36:53] but can Flavage jump

[00:36:55] 233 meters

[00:36:57] like Awesome in?

[00:36:59] actually three meters

[00:37:01] that would be quite a jump

[00:37:03] not 233

[00:37:05] Superman

[00:37:07] he's going to go to the sky

[00:37:09] absolutely

[00:37:11] oh gosh

[00:37:13] look where my mind is

[00:37:15] I mean that was

[00:37:17] it's amazing isn't it

[00:37:19] that goal for Oceeman

[00:37:21] was almost the least memorable

[00:37:23] when he scored it was the equalizer

[00:37:25] you think that's an incredible header

[00:37:27] but he went on to score some even better goals

[00:37:29] than there but no I think

[00:37:31] you're right I don't think there's much to say about Juventus

[00:37:33] save for the fact

[00:37:35] that they are the third best team in Serie A

[00:37:37] I think they'll end up as the third best team in Serie A

[00:37:39] I don't see them overhauling Milan

[00:37:41] I don't see them necessarily being caught now after Bologna

[00:37:43] could only draw at Frosinone

[00:37:45] and I think it is time

[00:37:47] now to break with the past with Allegri

[00:37:49] I think it's time for a new coach to come in

[00:37:51] and what a situation to inherit

[00:37:53] you've got a slightly disgruntled fan base

[00:37:55] you've got young players with big potential

[00:37:57] possibly coming back to the club

[00:37:59] certainly to have a look at them in the summer

[00:38:01] Atia Soleil, Dean Hoyson and so on and so forth

[00:38:03] you're going to have Champions League football

[00:38:05] and you're going to be involved in the club world cup

[00:38:07] so whoever gets that job if there is a vacancy

[00:38:09] is going to have a really interesting third season

[00:38:13] God willing it is in a Dinsa Jahan

[00:38:15] but

[00:38:17] I do want to talk about Atalanta

[00:38:19] because they have an upcoming

[00:38:21] what their upcoming game is against Liverpool

[00:38:23] they lost to Calieri

[00:38:27] by the way it doesn't get enough of a mention

[00:38:29] for how good Calieri has been

[00:38:31] recently I mean I looked at their games

[00:38:33] in 2024 and there's only

[00:38:35] two matches out of 13 I believe that they

[00:38:37] haven't scored so they always come up

[00:38:39] with a goal they've got the second

[00:38:41] amount of goals coming from substitutions

[00:38:43] only me and Anna has done better

[00:38:45] with their substitutes than what Calieri

[00:38:47] has managed with theirs

[00:38:49] more importantly they've recovered

[00:38:51] I think 15 to 16 points

[00:38:55] by coming back

[00:38:57] games so going one

[00:38:59] down or two down and coming back

[00:39:01] so disadvantageous positions

[00:39:03] I don't know how well to explain this

[00:39:05] I feel like I don't know the right word

[00:39:07] losing positions

[00:39:09] thank you very simple

[00:39:11] but coming back from losing positions

[00:39:13] I think only Napoli has done better

[00:39:15] in recovering points from losing positions

[00:39:17] so Calieri overall

[00:39:19] it really shows you that the strength

[00:39:21] of Ranieri more importantly

[00:39:23] the way in which they score goals

[00:39:25] at the final 15 minutes of matches

[00:39:27] which shows a never say die attitude

[00:39:29] and they are in a relegation

[00:39:31] battle

[00:39:35] there's something about them that makes

[00:39:37] it seem like it would be so disastrous

[00:39:39] for this team to go away

[00:39:41] I mean the way that they have been

[00:39:43] under Ranieri this season deserves a lot more attention

[00:39:45] but of course them winning against Atelanta

[00:39:47] means that this was the second loss

[00:39:49] of Atelanta in a row

[00:39:51] coming against Fiorentina midweek

[00:39:53] in the Coppa Italia

[00:39:55] and of course we had a voice note

[00:39:57] on that

[00:39:59] is it over for Atelanta

[00:40:01] they have Liverpool coming up

[00:40:03] they seem to be exhausted

[00:40:05] I mean you look at this team

[00:40:07] it's trying to do what's all at the moment

[00:40:09] but can they make Champions League

[00:40:11] when you consider the form of Bologna

[00:40:13] when you consider the form of Roma

[00:40:15] the schedule that they have

[00:40:17] some say it's quite easy

[00:40:19] there's two conversations to have

[00:40:21] I've got my head on Caliari

[00:40:23] and Ranieri because of course

[00:40:25] there was that extraordinary game

[00:40:27] against Fosnana earlier in the season

[00:40:29] where they were losing by three goals

[00:40:31] after 17th minute came back to win 4-3

[00:40:33] never happened before

[00:40:35] they got the 95th minute equaliser

[00:40:37] against Napoli more recently

[00:40:39] they've been doing it all season as you say Mina

[00:40:41] and Ranieri has absolutely been

[00:40:43] out of everything

[00:40:45] out of everyone frankly

[00:40:47] 4 goals this season

[00:40:49] 35 I think

[00:40:51] he's certainly no spring chicken

[00:40:53] but as a bit plant player

[00:40:55] he's close to it, isn't he Viola

[00:40:57] 34

[00:40:59] so

[00:41:01] he's doing an extraordinary job

[00:41:03] and that needs to be credited

[00:41:05] for sure

[00:41:07] Atelanta do feel

[00:41:09] like a team that's running

[00:41:11] out of steam at the wrong moment

[00:41:13] it's really unfortunate

[00:41:15] it's terrible timing going into that game

[00:41:17] against Liverpool and perhaps

[00:41:19] it will turn out just because they've been keeping

[00:41:21] something in reserve for Liverpool

[00:41:23] but I do think there was maybe

[00:41:25] a little bit in this game specifically

[00:41:27] of complacency

[00:41:29] they certainly had had a brutally physical

[00:41:31] game against Fiolentino midweek

[00:41:33] I talked about that on my voice note

[00:41:35] it was a really violent game of football

[00:41:37] and I guess when

[00:41:39] they got in front so early here

[00:41:41] with Scamaca there might have been a little bit of

[00:41:43] a call we could do with an easy game here

[00:41:45] because we've got Liverpool coming up next

[00:41:47] and perhaps that led them into a bit of complacency

[00:41:49] but they really do seem

[00:41:51] in an odd way

[00:41:53] because there are still things in the team that are good

[00:41:55] Coop Miners is still playing some brilliant passes

[00:41:57] Scamaca scoring

[00:41:59] is obviously encouraging

[00:42:01] Atelanta look and still get some self-interesting positions

[00:42:03] but they just feel like

[00:42:05] they've lost a little bit of that

[00:42:07] momentum that you need in this last part of the season

[00:42:09] There was a big

[00:42:11] absentee there without George Osscalvini

[00:42:13] for a month and I know he's had his detractors

[00:42:15] but he's very accomplished

[00:42:17] and that has really disrupted

[00:42:19] the rotations for Gasperini as well

[00:42:21] because they signed Esac Heeyen from Verona in January

[00:42:23] and recently he's become

[00:42:25] first in regular has been excellent we saw it against Napoli

[00:42:27] in particular completely nullifying

[00:42:29] Ossiman and Heeyen

[00:42:31] was given a rest Rafael Toloy came in

[00:42:33] that's because Osscalvini is injured

[00:42:35] and Gasperini doesn't want to play the same back three

[00:42:37] for every single game

[00:42:39] and they've got lots of matches coming up

[00:42:41] so he thought I'll rest Heeyen so that he's fit enough

[00:42:43] for the Liverpool game and he's fresh

[00:42:45] and will give Toloy a chance

[00:42:47] but Toloy hadn't started a game since October

[00:42:49] and it showed despite him being the club captain

[00:42:51] they've got Palomino who they're unwilling

[00:42:53] to play completely

[00:42:55] he's played about 30 minutes all told all season

[00:42:57] so I think that's the problem for Atelanta

[00:42:59] and they haven't taken the same approach that

[00:43:01] Fiorentina have where Fiorentina have basically said

[00:43:03] forget about Serie A

[00:43:05] we're going to try and qualify for Europe either by winning

[00:43:07] the Coppa Italia or by winning the Conference League

[00:43:09] and what will be domestically

[00:43:11] whereas Atelanta ideally

[00:43:13] would love to win the Coppa Italia because that's

[00:43:15] the most tangible trophy that

[00:43:17] closest to that but now they've got that first leg deficit

[00:43:19] they're going to start a huge underdogs against Liverpool

[00:43:21] and yet they're in

[00:43:23] they're within touching

[00:43:25] distance of the top five as well so

[00:43:27] it's very difficult for Gasperini to get his team

[00:43:29] selection right and I think he got it wrong and I think

[00:43:31] Nikki's absolutely right they almost scored too early

[00:43:33] and didn't kick on and pursue

[00:43:35] that second goal and just on Cagliere I think

[00:43:37] they can be slightly misleading

[00:43:39] those statistics you know when you say

[00:43:41] they've recovered X amount of points

[00:43:43] from losing positions it's true but

[00:43:45] often it can just be quite

[00:43:47] coincidental that in that match they conceded first

[00:43:49] as opposed to scoring first

[00:43:51] you know there are teams like Liverpool and the Premier League

[00:43:53] that feel like they frequently concede

[00:43:55] the first goal and yet it feels inevitable they're going to come back

[00:43:57] it's not obviously the same thing with Cagliere

[00:43:59] but I think they're always going to concede

[00:44:01] because they don't keep too many clean sheets

[00:44:03] and so as a result for them to get points

[00:44:05] they need to score sooner or later

[00:44:07] and that's what they managed

[00:44:09] and lovely play from Elders

[00:44:11] Shamarodov in holding the ball up

[00:44:13] for the first goal as well

[00:44:15] I was always a really big fan of his

[00:44:17] I was always disappointed it didn't work out for him at Roma

[00:44:19] but it was amazing because he was

[00:44:21] being tracked by so many different defenders

[00:44:23] and still had the thought to pass

[00:44:25] anyway I was really pleased for them

[00:44:27] but there is something to be said if I agree with you

[00:44:29] about recovering points

[00:44:31] and conceding first it can happen when you're Cagliere

[00:44:33] but it's also the never say die attitude

[00:44:35] that they have that I think is quite

[00:44:37] unusual for their level of team

[00:44:39] because you know it's understandable

[00:44:41] for them to be complacent sometimes

[00:44:43] and it's understandable to say okay we're going to lose this one

[00:44:45] but they never do that they always have the right

[00:44:47] attitude which is something that I don't think

[00:44:49] could be said about Atelanta

[00:44:51] which is exactly what Gasperini said

[00:44:53] is we need to show this level

[00:44:55] of commitment to winning games that we saw

[00:44:57] Cagliere do show and I wonder

[00:44:59] if we're going to see that against Liverpool

[00:45:01] do we see this being anything other than

[00:45:03] a comprehensive win for the English side

[00:45:05] I think

[00:45:07] that Atelanta have

[00:45:09] the tools to hurt any team

[00:45:11] if things go right

[00:45:13] I think when you look at that team and even look at that game

[00:45:15] against Cagliere what was good in that performance

[00:45:17] it was the front part of the team right

[00:45:19] like I said before Scamacchic is going well

[00:45:21] Lukman gets into good positions

[00:45:23] and certainly a player who can unpick defences

[00:45:25] you've got tools to unpick something

[00:45:27] I just don't see how they're going to get away

[00:45:29] from Liverpool without conceding

[00:45:31] three or four times the way they're playing at the moment

[00:45:33] and I think that's the reason why it's hard to see them getting results

[00:45:35] They need to come back to Bergamo with Max

[00:45:37] one goal deficit to have any chance

[00:45:39] of winning the tie and I don't see it

[00:45:41] I see them being beaten by two or three goals

[00:45:43] absolutely

[00:45:45] What about

[00:45:47] the other game so I did

[00:45:49] a voice note on Milan and I was discussing

[00:45:51] sort of links to from

[00:45:53] about then with Antonio Conte

[00:45:55] and obviously it was my whole

[00:45:57] 18 minutes on why purely

[00:45:59] he's just brilliant so we've

[00:46:01] Milan continue winning

[00:46:03] seventh victory in a row it's really impressive

[00:46:05] the way that they're turning around and finding their rhythms

[00:46:07] we can

[00:46:09] speak about the glory of Pulisic

[00:46:11] playing in the position that

[00:46:13] I actually wanted him to play at the start

[00:46:15] of the season I really wanted it to be too quasi

[00:46:17] out wide with Leão on the other side

[00:46:19] and Pulisic behind

[00:46:21] I know it's very it's very attacking

[00:46:23] but this was the game

[00:46:25] to try it in because Lupe Ruben Loftus-Cic

[00:46:27] wasn't available

[00:46:29] suspended for this match but it was brilliant

[00:46:31] to watch it was just absolutely brilliant

[00:46:33] to watch how well that they all flow together

[00:46:35] how well the team flows together

[00:46:37] and I never felt like purely was

[00:46:39] given time to find that and it's always

[00:46:41] it's always going to take time

[00:46:43] to find that regardless of all of this

[00:46:45] they're coming up against Roma

[00:46:47] in the Europa League

[00:46:51] we should really mention Cassano

[00:46:53] and his comment on Rafael Leão

[00:46:55] which were just

[00:46:57] there's another man with his pants who always wants to

[00:46:59] and I just never know why did he give

[00:47:01] him such a platform to speak

[00:47:03] it's like Joey Barton

[00:47:05] right like it's like why

[00:47:07] although sometimes he has said

[00:47:09] things in the past that I sort of agree with

[00:47:11] but so he came out

[00:47:13] and said that he well he said

[00:47:15] Rafael Leão is in a world-class player

[00:47:17] he'd been a sixth or seventh place team

[00:47:19] back in Cassano's glory days

[00:47:21] of Serie A you know

[00:47:23] like Cassano was playing in the late

[00:47:25] 80s into early 90s I mean

[00:47:27] it was still good Serie A

[00:47:29] don't get me wrong at the turn of the new millennium

[00:47:31] but I mean Cassano with the rose tinted spectacles

[00:47:33] yeah sorry me

[00:47:35] I mean if Saviciovic could win a Champions League

[00:47:37] then Rafael Leão would not be

[00:47:39] in the 70s anyway

[00:47:41] regardless of this we don't need to give him any more

[00:47:43] time but what I do want to say is that Milan

[00:47:45] are

[00:47:47] a better team than Roma at least the league

[00:47:49] suggests that

[00:47:51] between these two sides who do you think

[00:47:53] is coming into this with

[00:47:55] greater momentum I mean it's got to be

[00:47:57] the way that Milan is playing in the last seven matches

[00:47:59] but then you think of Daniela Dorossi's team

[00:48:01] and you think they've been there before

[00:48:03] recently they've been doing it in Europe

[00:48:05] recently can Roma do it again

[00:48:07] I think Dorossi will be hugely

[00:48:09] motivated to at least make the Europa League

[00:48:11] final because it's the one

[00:48:13] stick they can beat him with

[00:48:15] when it comes to the Mourinho comparisons

[00:48:17] at the moment you know Mourinho was the one

[00:48:19] who brought back Silvia to Roma for the first

[00:48:21] time since 2008 he was

[00:48:23] the one who won Roma's European trophy

[00:48:25] the conference league nearly won the Europa League the next year

[00:48:27] and so if Dorossi were to lose

[00:48:29] especially against a domestic rival

[00:48:31] it almost feels the worst possible way

[00:48:33] for you to lose in Europe is when you lose

[00:48:35] to someone you know from Serie A because it's like well

[00:48:37] there's no rhyme or

[00:48:39] reason to it you know them

[00:48:41] you're able to

[00:48:43] it's not like you have to study opposition you might be caught

[00:48:45] by surprise or not know what to expect

[00:48:47] you know Dorossi will know

[00:48:49] what to expect from Milan and vice versa

[00:48:51] and I think

[00:48:53] the Europa League would be a great

[00:48:55] competition for Roma to win not only for

[00:48:57] Dorossi to say look actually this squad

[00:48:59] is very good and Mourinho was

[00:49:01] being slightly disingenuous when he was suggesting

[00:49:03] that he was overachieving

[00:49:05] with an average group of players to win those

[00:49:07] European trophies but also

[00:49:09] above all it gives you access to next season's

[00:49:11] Champions League as a seed

[00:49:13] I think it's the best European competition

[00:49:15] that you can win say for the Champions League

[00:49:17] and as we've seen into notwithstanding

[00:49:19] Italy don't have the hope of winning the Champions League

[00:49:21] at the moment so I think

[00:49:23] Roma are going to be additionally motivated by that

[00:49:25] the problem for them is

[00:49:27] Milan have never won the Europa League so they have

[00:49:29] that to try and achieve

[00:49:31] and Milan are pretty much guaranteed

[00:49:33] a top four slash five finish

[00:49:35] now so the Champions League is sorted for them

[00:49:37] and I think that could

[00:49:39] possibly play into it. Milan have

[00:49:41] greater scope to rotate than Roma

[00:49:43] and Milan are better than Roma

[00:49:45] it's a blunt thing to say

[00:49:47] and it doesn't necessarily mean they'll win because

[00:49:49] last season Napoli

[00:49:51] strolled to the league title

[00:49:53] and yet they lost to Milan in the Champions League

[00:49:55] so it doesn't always follow that the best team

[00:49:57] is going to win even if they know each other domestically

[00:49:59] but Milan are better than Roma

[00:50:01] they're the second best team in Italy

[00:50:03] quite confidently now that the events have fallen away

[00:50:05] they're on a really strong run of form

[00:50:07] talking before about Piorre

[00:50:09] and perhaps him not getting all the

[00:50:11] credit he deserves for how

[00:50:13] well Milan have played actually recently

[00:50:15] Pulisic

[00:50:17] is playing at a really, really high level right now

[00:50:19] he's going to be the

[00:50:21] real focal point of this team

[00:50:23] the way things are going at the moment once Giroud leaves in the summer

[00:50:27] they have

[00:50:29] more about them than Roma

[00:50:31] Roma have improved under their

[00:50:33] I think they're in a much better place than they were

[00:50:35] for instance when they lost to Milan when they last played

[00:50:37] in January under Mourinho

[00:50:39] but do I think they're a better team than Milan

[00:50:41] I think Milan are the second best team in Italy

[00:50:43] and I think they were

[00:50:45] I think they're a Champions League

[00:50:47] Calibre team playing in the Europa League

[00:50:49] they're not a team that I would say should win

[00:50:51] the Champions League

[00:50:53] but they're a Champions League Calibre team

[00:50:55] but isn't Roma a Champions League Calibre team?

[00:50:57] they're on the way there

[00:50:59] they've proved it

[00:51:01] okay I'm wondering if Daniel Lidarosi started

[00:51:03] this year and the coach

[00:51:05] whether or not they would have

[00:51:07] because you look on paper right and you think there's a lot of talent there

[00:51:09] and it hasn't really

[00:51:11] we're starting to see it but you do think like

[00:51:13] Pellegrini, Di Bala, Lukaku

[00:51:15] there's a lot of talent there

[00:51:17] that we haven't seen the best of

[00:51:19] people who won the World Cup

[00:51:21] it'll be very interesting to see what happens with

[00:51:23] Roma next season because I was reading

[00:51:25] an article in Corriere del Sport

[00:51:27] and the other day they said 18 players

[00:51:29] have their futures

[00:51:31] up for debate

[00:51:33] uncertainty with the players

[00:51:35] like Lukaku or Bing on loan

[00:51:37] and Renato Sanchez and Asmune

[00:51:39] and there's just loads of them and Hoisin

[00:51:41] and players out of contracts

[00:51:43] Binatola etc so it'll be interesting to see

[00:51:45] if Di Rosi is in charge what his squad looks like

[00:51:47] next season but just one final thing you mentioned

[00:51:49] on paper there

[00:51:51] I think on paper Milan

[00:51:53] are much closer actually to

[00:51:55] what the table suggests and I might have to

[00:51:57] enlist the help of the archivista

[00:51:59] that I know at Milan

[00:52:01] the guy who works on the archive because

[00:52:03] I'd love to know the statistics from Milan's league

[00:52:05] results when they've had their best 11

[00:52:07] to pick from because they've been decimated

[00:52:09] from injuries through injuries all season

[00:52:11] long very rarely if they were able

[00:52:13] to pick their best back four and it's been

[00:52:15] defensive frailties which have cost them very

[00:52:17] rarely have you looked at them and seen

[00:52:19] at Milan side they're incapable of scoring goals

[00:52:21] but you know they had all sorts of injuries

[00:52:23] like the Tumori and Kalulu and then

[00:52:25] Teo and Anders for a time

[00:52:27] Calabria

[00:52:29] Chao there's every single play

[00:52:31] and then you can argue well that's part of running

[00:52:33] a club successfully is your

[00:52:35] fitness training and your medical department

[00:52:37] so on and so forth but I would love to see

[00:52:39] purely given another season

[00:52:41] with this group of players with another couple

[00:52:43] of additions next summer to see how close

[00:52:45] they could get to Nzagi's into next season

[00:52:47] so I think on that basis

[00:52:49] I would agree that Milan are the superior team

[00:52:51] but that doesn't mean necessarily

[00:52:53] especially with the second leg in Rome

[00:52:55] that Roma can't get the better of them

[00:52:57] You're so right about that

[00:52:59] the fact is that all these

[00:53:01] players that they've born in the transfer market

[00:53:03] you think it's so many different ones and yet

[00:53:05] most nearly all of them have worked out

[00:53:07] I mean they've all been brilliant

[00:53:09] I mean Loftus-Chick and Pulisic probably

[00:53:11] the two standard players

[00:53:13] I don't know if we can say Chick-Waz has been brilliant

[00:53:15] he had a good game at the weekend

[00:53:17] but if you start looking at statistics

[00:53:19] there's a general uptick

[00:53:21] in his performances we're starting to see

[00:53:23] the Chick-Waz that we saw from Villareal

[00:53:25] and he is even bettering some of this

[00:53:27] like Piorri was talking about from the statistics

[00:53:29] that he was showing back when he was playing in La Liga

[00:53:31] I think that you see it's quite hard

[00:53:33] to come into a new team and show the brilliance

[00:53:35] straight away I think it was easy for Pulisic

[00:53:37] he made it look easy so we sort of started

[00:53:39] to expect that from everyone else but then you look at

[00:53:41] you know him I think

[00:53:43] that Chick-Waz is going to be brilliant next season

[00:53:45] I'm so excited to see what he can produce

[00:53:47] and going forward I think Gaby are coming in

[00:53:49] and showing that level of performance at the back

[00:53:51] is really impressive

[00:53:53] and I look at this team and I think

[00:53:55] oh my god imagine one season where they now

[00:53:57] really know each other I mean Reinders has been fantastic

[00:53:59] Adli has put in some great performances

[00:54:01] and this is a midfield

[00:54:03] that was completely changed

[00:54:05] completely changed because Ben-Assay wasn't

[00:54:07] available at the start of the season

[00:54:09] and you look at that they'd lost

[00:54:11] big players like Tonali

[00:54:13] and Ibrahimovic from leadership as well

[00:54:15] and to create this level of

[00:54:17] comfort in playing with each other

[00:54:19] and understanding tactical

[00:54:21] understanding and rhythm I think

[00:54:23] he deserves at least one more year

[00:54:25] because I think this team could be really exciting

[00:54:27] maybe we can continue creating these wonderful

[00:54:29] cycles and football where it's like Inter

[00:54:31] and then Milan and then maybe

[00:54:33] Napoli will come back and then maybe

[00:54:35] and then maybe you just will win again we never know

[00:54:37] Mina just one final point on that you made

[00:54:39] a really good comparison there between

[00:54:41] Chick-Waz and Pulisic because that's obviously

[00:54:43] what supporters do they see two wingers

[00:54:45] come in and they naturally

[00:54:47] compare them and as you said Pulisic hit the ground

[00:54:49] running exactly Pulisic

[00:54:51] hit the ground running scored in his debut against Bologna

[00:54:53] never look back he's now into double figures I think for lead goals

[00:54:55] and Chick-Waz took his time

[00:54:57] then he obviously went to AFKON as well

[00:54:59] and what I found was interesting was

[00:55:01] was Piali saying

[00:55:03] they asked him recently

[00:55:05] they said what does Chick-Waz need to do

[00:55:07] to be more like

[00:55:09] they basically said what's the difference between

[00:55:11] Chick-Waz and Pulisic and he said

[00:55:13] Pulisic scores goals

[00:55:15] creates goals and works very hard for the team

[00:55:17] and they said what does Chick-Waz need to do

[00:55:19] and he said score goals create goals

[00:55:21] and work very hard for the team so

[00:55:23] Piali I think has been very good in terms of when to use

[00:55:25] the carrot and when to use the stick it was

[00:55:27] clearly the stick with Chick-Waz this is about three weeks

[00:55:29] ago and the proof is in the pudding

[00:55:31] since then performances he's getting goals

[00:55:33] he's providing assists and

[00:55:35] it's made a big difference

[00:55:37] Yeah it was definitely my

[00:55:39] player to watch out when to look out for

[00:55:41] when he first came in he was the one I was most

[00:55:43] excited about because he's just such a direct

[00:55:45] and I think there's a lot of untapped potential

[00:55:47] there that he was so fun to

[00:55:49] watch in La Liga and I'm very

[00:55:51] convinced he's going to be a huge standout

[00:55:53] player for Milan so just a little

[00:55:55] bit more time for us to really see what

[00:55:57] he's capable of

[00:55:59] Just want to

[00:56:01] move on quickly just to say that Bologna

[00:56:03] dropped points against Frazzinoni

[00:56:05] that was a

[00:56:07] nil-nil we didn't expect that to be honest

[00:56:09] with you but a lot has been said about

[00:56:11] Atalanta's away form but

[00:56:13] actually if you look at Bologna's away form

[00:56:15] there's a big difference 20 points away from

[00:56:17] Hirm 38 points at Hirm so there is

[00:56:19] certainly not the same level of

[00:56:21] performance that we get from Bologna when

[00:56:23] they travel and the one that we get from them

[00:56:25] at Hirm of course that takes nothing away

[00:56:27] from their Brunyan season

[00:56:29] moving on to Napoli, Osman scored a

[00:56:31] goal by scored the equalizer

[00:56:33] by jumping not 233 meters

[00:56:35] but 223 cm

[00:56:37] He's tied outside of the same

[00:56:39] just leapt into the stadium

[00:56:43] To be fair he does

[00:56:45] wear a mask, do you know what I mean? A cape is not

[00:56:47] out of the questions but

[00:56:49] maybe last season

[00:56:51] he was capable of jumping 233 meters

[00:56:53] not this year

[00:56:55] Patrick my only fear is that

[00:56:57] I've said this on radio

[00:56:59] I just feel like nobody might have

[00:57:01] realised because you know

[00:57:03] I've already said this before

[00:57:05] but I'm so convinced it was meters

[00:57:07] I didn't even question it

[00:57:09] but either way Napoli had a terrific

[00:57:11] game in the sense that you know

[00:57:13] obviously when to go down in the first

[00:57:15] 15 minutes there was

[00:57:17] there was a protest being carried out

[00:57:19] by their fans

[00:57:21] they didn't show up it was an away game

[00:57:23] for the first 15 minutes hunger banner that said

[00:57:25] absent like you and then came in

[00:57:27] to see the Moradi won go down

[00:57:29] against Monza who

[00:57:31] is a lovely target man today you know playing for

[00:57:33] Jurich

[00:57:35] either way then they

[00:57:37] scored these three goals

[00:57:39] from the 55th minute to the

[00:57:41] 61st which were three of the most

[00:57:43] beautiful goals I think I've ever

[00:57:45] seen and it was fantastic

[00:57:47] one from Zylinski obviously the equaliser

[00:57:49] from Ossiman and then

[00:57:51] Politano with that oh sensational

[00:57:53] volley sensational goal

[00:57:55] and then Monza

[00:57:57] scored with Colpani and then

[00:57:59] responds in the end so really end to

[00:58:01] end match great Carl Zerner

[00:58:03] talks about the attacking game and

[00:58:05] how Napoli

[00:58:07] you know this is

[00:58:09] what's brilliant about Napoli is that they have a great

[00:58:11] attacking game it's just that defensively they've really been let down

[00:58:13] this season they're just not a

[00:58:15] secure team at the back

[00:58:17] these are a buy-in who got him

[00:58:19] a game to watch whole weekend I mean the Derby

[00:58:21] was a Derby but this was a

[00:58:23] it was a bit nonsense but it was really fun

[00:58:25] to watch. Nicky the last

[00:58:27] 30 minutes of you if you're in Tina was

[00:58:29] a good Nap time

[00:58:33] but that Kiotr Zylinski he

[00:58:35] seems quite good I wonder if Carl Zerner would

[00:58:37] have liked to have him in the Champions League last

[00:58:39] 16. I know right

[00:58:41] how annoying how annoying

[00:58:43] but yeah that's

[00:58:45] the round up of all the games

[00:58:47] there was also an interesting 3-2

[00:58:49] battle between Empoli and Torino it's something

[00:58:51] you wouldn't expect this is a game that screams

[00:58:53] under two goals but it wasn't

[00:58:55] Milan defeated Lecce 3-0

[00:58:57] as you all know Atalanta lost

[00:58:59] 2-1 to Cagliere

[00:59:01] Saleni Tana and Saswolo

[00:59:03] 2-2 and Verona lost

[00:59:05] to Genoa Genoa not

[00:59:07] the best travellers but managed two goals

[00:59:09] against

[00:59:11] Verona obviously we have the european league qualifiers

[00:59:13] quarterfinals

[00:59:15] right qualifiers the european league

[00:59:17] quarterfinals first leg

[00:59:19] on Thursday it is Milan versus

[00:59:21] Roma and Liverpool versus Atalanta

[00:59:23] and we have the conference league

[00:59:25] Victoria Pillsen versus Fiorintina

[00:59:27] I was just going to chime in

[00:59:29] real quickly on that before we wrap

[00:59:31] up which is just because Genoa

[00:59:33] with that win pretty much are out of that

[00:59:35] relegation conversation now which is a really

[00:59:37] intense relegation conversation because 13

[00:59:39] plays Caliere 30 points all the way down

[00:59:41] to Saswolo in 19 there's

[00:59:43] 5 points between all those teams

[00:59:45] and I think really like

[00:59:47] Goodmans and who assisted

[00:59:49] one and scored one at the weekend

[00:59:51] that's the difference a lot of time between

[00:59:53] relegation fight and not relegation fight

[00:59:55] if you've got a 12 goal striker that's

[00:59:57] very often going to be enough to get you out of trouble

[00:59:59] and I think he's been the difference for them

[01:00:01] hence why he's been linked with Inter amongst

[01:00:03] others next summer we've got a couple

[01:00:05] of shout outs Gregory Hill

[01:00:07] and Daniel Kane thank you very much for

[01:00:09] supporting us and

[01:00:11] as Mina mentioned there it is

[01:00:13] a european week so

[01:00:15] Europa League and conference league

[01:00:17] ties on the horizon I'm sure

[01:00:19] we'll be back over the course of the week

[01:00:21] with some extra content for you there wrapping up

[01:00:23] those first leg matches between

[01:00:25] Milan Roma and Liverpool

[01:00:27] Atlanta and Victoria Pillsen

[01:00:29] Fiorentina but

[01:00:31] that is all for us from now

[01:00:33] or from us for now

[01:00:35] thank you very much to Mina

[01:00:37] for hosting to

[01:00:39] Nikki Bandini and producer Simon

[01:00:41] we will see you very soon

[01:00:43] on another episode of Seria Chronicles

[01:00:45] bye bye

[01:00:49] here is the derby number 183

[01:00:51] of the capital

[01:00:53] the winner is Roma

[01:00:55] the winner is Daniel Edderossi

[01:00:57] 1-0 on the lead of Igor Tudor

[01:00:59] the decisive net

[01:01:01] at 42nd of the first half

[01:01:03] Gianluca Mancini on the head

[01:01:05] after the corner kick

[01:01:07] beat by Paolo DiBallo and I think

[01:01:09] it's a good result

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